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names .....
Anyone has some other names ??
Rgds,
Parvinder

-----Original Message-----
From: Gart, Mitch [mailto:mgart at netegrity.com]
Sent: den 5 april 2001 19:31
To: 'Parvinder Singh(EHPT)'; advanced-java at lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
Subject: RE: [Advanced-java] IDE question


It makes most sense to have the IDE be a native app that runs native on the
OS
that the developers are using.  If the developers are using NT, it's best to
use an
NT-based IDE.  If you had said the developers were each running Solaris then
a
Solaris-based IDE would have been preferable.
 
IDEs have enough problems with bigness and slowness.  Running one remotely
through a terminal emulator just adds to the problems.  Also, there are a
lot more
choices available on NT than on Solaris.
 
- Mitch

-----Original Message-----
From: Parvinder Singh(EHPT) [mailto:P.Singh at ehpt.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:41 AM
To: advanced-java at lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
<mailto:advanced-java at lists.xcf.berkeley.edu> 
Subject: [Advanced-java] IDE question



Hi everybody, 

We are looking for an IDE for Java specially made for Solaris i.e native to
Solaris. We have NT workstation PCs. We run these IDE's from PCs using unix
terminal Emulator e.g Exceed. Although we have tried Forte and Elixir,they
run very slow when run from NT workstation PCs.

Can anybody recommend any faster speed IDE on Solaris. 

Thanks and regards, 
Parvinder 


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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232385012-05042001>XEmacs 
is the most configurable editor I have seen.&nbsp; Even has its own programming 
language(LISP). Ill admit Xemacs/JDE doesn't have all the bells and whistles 
that JBuilder or Visual Age has but it is easy to configure and get working 
fast.&nbsp; Not to mention, its virtually platform independent.&nbsp; Xemacs has 
a port for most standard OS's.&nbsp; I know for a fact that there is a solaris 
native and NT native version.&nbsp; There is&nbsp;a learning curve that you have 
to tackle if you are not familiar with it but its well worth the time 
IMHO.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=232385012-05042001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232385012-05042001>User 
Guide for JDE</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=232385012-05042001><A 
href="http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/emacs/jde/jde.htm">http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/emacs/jde/jde.htm</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=232385012-05042001>Mike</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=232385012-05042001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Parvinder Singh(EHPT) 
  [mailto:P.Singh at ehpt.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:40 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'advanced-java at lists.xcf.berkeley.edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
  [Advanced-java] IDE question<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=3>Hi 
  everybody,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=3></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial size=3>Let me clear out the need. We have a big team of developers 
  having NT workstations but have all products like Orbixweb Corba server, 
  Security libraries, source code in clearcase and lot of other products etc on 
  a Solaris server so when we do java coding, we have to ftp the java to NT, 
  edit the thing and take it back to Solaris for compiling. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=3></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial size=3>I want a Solaris IDE which is a native application so that 
  developers use it from their NT workstations using Excced(emulator) and it 
  should give reasonable performance.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=3></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=3>From 
  some of your email, I got to know XEMACS in JDE mode and some other names 
  .....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=3></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff 
  face=Arial size=3></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT 
  color=#0000ff face=Arial size=3>Anyone has some other names 
  ??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=3>Rgds,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=322110410-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
  size=3>Parvinder</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gart, Mitch 
    [mailto:mgart at netegrity.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> den 5 april 2001 
    19:31<BR><B>To:</B> 'Parvinder Singh(EHPT)'; 
    advanced-java at lists.xcf.berkeley.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Advanced-java] 
    IDE question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>It 
    makes most sense to have the IDE be a native app that runs native on the 
    OS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>that the developers are using.&nbsp; If the developers are using NT, 
    it's best to use an</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>NT-based IDE.&nbsp; If you had said the developers were each running 
    Solaris then a</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>Solaris-based IDE would have been preferable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>IDEs have enough problems with bigness and slowness.&nbsp; Running 
    one remotely</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>through a terminal emulator just adds to the problems.&nbsp; Also, 
    there are a lot more</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>choices available on NT than on Solaris.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=828521911-05042001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>- 
    Mitch</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Parvinder Singh(EHPT) 
      [mailto:P.Singh at ehpt.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:41 
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:advanced-java at lists.xcf.berkeley.edu">advanced-java at lists.xcf.berkeley.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> 
      [Advanced-java] IDE question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <P><FONT size=2>Hi everybody,</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=2>We are looking for an IDE for Java specially made for 
      Solaris i.e native to Solaris. We have NT workstation PCs. We run these 
      IDE's from PCs using unix terminal Emulator e.g Exceed. Although we have 
      tried Forte and Elixir,they run very slow when run from NT workstation 
      PCs.</FONT></P>
      <P><FONT size=2>Can anybody recommend any faster speed IDE on 
      Solaris.</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=2>Thanks and regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT 
      size=2>Parvinder</FONT> 
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