[Gimp-docs] Glossary

Axel Wernicke axel.wernicke at gmx.de
Mon Jul 24 11:15:50 PDT 2006


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Hi Sally,

Am 24.07.2006 um 19:09 schrieb Sally C. Barry:

> Hello Gimp-doc people!
>
> The Glossary is the first section of the Gimp documents which I looked
> at.  (I may need to go back to it again in the future, since I learned
> more about it as I went along.)  There are a couple of issues that
> came up when I was going through the Glossary, which it might be good
> to discuss on the list.
So, you took the tough end of the manual to start - congrats!

>
> I found out that the German version had many glossentries which  
> weren't
> in the English version, and also many glossentries which were quite
> different (and more informative) in the German version.  (If you did
> that, Axel, thank you!)
thanks you for the flowers, but I didn't finish yet. There is still a  
lot of work todo in the glossary.

>
> I tried to translate the German changes back into English.  One  
> possible
> issue with doing this is that other languages may also want to make
> similar changes to their glossentries, and that's a lot of work!
>
> A large number of the newer German glossentries refer to the German
> version of Wikipedia.  Sometimes they refer the reader to Wikipedia
> for more information and sometimes they cite Wikipedia as the source
> of the information.
>
> Roman suggested that we discuss the issues involved in this on the
> mailing list, so that we might come up with a useful policy.
>
> I see these issues (for and against) the German Wikipedia references.
>
>  - Wikipedia can change at any moment, making the references
>    invalid or doubtful.
no, there are stable links to the articles. The topics we used so far  
are on top of that pretty common. I don't see a reason why they  
should dissapear from the wikipedia.

>
>  - Citing the German Wikipedia entries in the English glossentries
>    (or those of other languages) isn't much use because:
Since the en wikipedia is much larger than the german one there  
shouldn't be many articles missing in the en wikipedia compared to  
the german version.

>
>    - Not many non-German-language readers can understand German.
For the non german glossary entries non german wikipedia references  
shall be used of course.

>
>    - The corresponding non-German Wikipedia entries (for example,
>      English) may be very different from the German one, so we
>      can't just change the references to (English/French/Czech/etc.)
well, a definition for imaging topics shouldn't vary too much. Color  
is physically the same all over the world.

>
>  - We don't want to violate anyone's copyright by using their
>    material without a reference.
Well, good point. Right now I usually copied the first paragraph of  
the wikipedia article and added a link. But wikipedia is free. There  
is no way to violate wikipedias copyright, since all the content is  
free ?!

>
>  - Is it really useful for the Gimp document readers to have to
>    refer to further information somewhere else?  But if not, how
>    extensively should the Gimp docs go into specific topics?
Thats IMHO a very important point. I think it is specially in the  
glossary important to give a SHORT definition of the term or topic,  
but ALSO give a reference for people who like to know exactly whats  
going on in the CMYK color space model.

>
> One possibility would be to cite Wikipedia once at the top of the
> Glossary for more information?
Uh, could you explain this a bit more detailed - I don't get your idea.

I think we indeed should double check the possibility of copyright  
issues, but AFAIK we are not doing anything evil.

Thanks for your passion,

greetings, lexA

>
> Thank you in advance for your ideas and suggestions.
>
> Sally in Massachusetts
>
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