[Gimp-web] Menu proposal.

[Carol Spears]

Branko Collin wrote:

>On 13 Aug 2003, at 21:06, Niklas Mattisson wrote:
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>>As you may know right about now there is a few changes being done to
>>the menus on mmmaybe.gimp.org the main porpuse of doing this is:
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>>* Make it easier to understand and to find things faster.
>>* Have a standard for the menus (Main Menu is local links only and
>>Linkbar is links to other websites on the net) * Easier to maintain.
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>>For now there is big FIXMEs and I will try to see if my proposal here
>>might work for the site. I would really love to get some comments
>>about this proposal also.
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>[menu structure moved below] 
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>>The whole thing about this structure is actually to see it from a user
>>point of view.
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>>First of all if I was going to the site the first time I would like to
>>know what GIMP is and how it looks like on the screen. After this I
>>would actually know how I can start to work with GIMP or how to
>>install it and try it on my machine after this learning how GIMP work
>>and different help guides to start working with it.
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>>If I am interested as a user to help then I would look almost at the
>>bottom of that menu to understand more how I can help. The last stuff
>>in the menu is something I don't know about yet though.
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>I completely agree with your motivation, but have a few small points 
>about the implementation.
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>>- News
>>- About GIMP
>>- Screenshots
>>- Downloads
>>- Tutorials
>>- Documents
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>Documents or Documentation?
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>If the latter, I think Tutorials can be moved into the Documentation 
>section, they do not necessarily need their own menu entry. Both 
>serve a similar goal and present similar information. 'Classic' 
>documentation (manuals) however, contain declarative knowledge ('what 
>is?'), whereas tutorials contain procedural knowledge ('how to?').
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Nope.  Tutorials are a free format and the authors have more leeway 
to express themselves.  I rather think that the next site should not
have such a militant template for tutorials.  Documentation is 
everything that presents itself in that time tested and trusted 
Docbook format, the complete format, as I consider the chunk I stole
about what a drawable is to be NOTDOCUMENTATION since it is not a whole
docbook entity.  I will fight any change to this definition of tutotial
and documentation.  Even my friends and people whos fan club I started.


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>>- Books
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>This, too, should perhaps be under Documentation, but I am not so 
>sure here.
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This too, we just moved it and I like the new location.  Perhaps you 
can help me remember why I like this better ....

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>>- Mailing Lists
>>- Bugs
>>- Getting Involved
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>>- GIMP from source
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>Instead I like "Source" or "Source code" better, but that's just a 
>personal preference. It might make it stand out a bit more, perhaps.
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GIMP Sources?

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>>- GIMP for Unix
>>- GIMP for Windows
>>- GIMP for MacOSX
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>What happened to GIMP for OS/2?
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Good question.  It needs to go back.  We have screenshots and great 
gimp doc writers there.  I think I actually had some trouble convincing
some of my linux team that the screenshots were from os2.  I get so 
bitter at the linux way of doing things, it is so fat, that off and on
I consider running os2 where they people have it truly difficult and
not much of an audience.

os2 needs to go back there.  Perhaps it should come first in the list 
also.

Branko, as founding member of your fan club, I see why I was started 
that thing.  Thanks for catching this error!!

*hugs*

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>>- Contests
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>In a previous design, you had Links in the menu bar. I rather liked 
>that. It's not unimportant information, and there are not much other 
>methods to get it. In this design, does the link to Links reappear at 
>the bottom of the page?
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Internal links along the side.  External along the bottom.  There now 
should not be any more questions there ....

Nice to hear from you Branko.  Please clear up your confusion about 
tutorials and beloved docbook docs.

carol