[Gimp-web] Moving of site proposal

[Raphaël Quinet]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:29:48 +0200, Niklas Mattisson <scizzo@gimp.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 15:04, Raphaël Quinet wrote:
> > However, Yosh sent a mail to me, indicating that the changes that I
> > reverted (going back to tables instead of div+css) are now causing
> > some problems in Mozilla Firebird.  Unfortunately, he was not very
> > specific so I am waiting for more details so that I can try to fix
> > that problem.
> 
> The firebird problem seems to be ok now. So I guess this is not a big
> issue at the moment I am not sure though. (Looks ok in my firebird
> anyways)

It looks like I had forgotten to remove the "position: absolute;" and
"margin-left: 11em;" from the style sheet.  drc fixed that.  I do not
know how it was broken in firebird, but it is apparently fixed now.

[...]
> > - Re-write the top paragraph on the home page (welcome text).  It does
> >   not have to be perfect, but I think that the current text could be
> >   improved easily.  Several comments have already been made in bug
> >   #119210.  Anyone who is interested can post some suggestions in that
> >   bug report, or just commit the changes directly.
> 
> I asked Branko about this and he wants someone that is a native English
> speaker to do the welcome text, I am not a native English speaker and I
> don't know how to write this in a good way so maybe someone that is a
> native English speaker could do something here and close the bug?

As I said, it does not have to be perfect.  I am not a native English
speaker either but if we cannot find a volunteer before Sunday, then
I will try to come up with something better than the current text.
But I am sure that some native English speakers will volunteer first.
Hint, hint!  ;-)

> > - Update the download page. (bug #119562)  Ideally, we should automate
> >   the whole process like in the "old" site, which updates the links
> >   and the text of the page automatically depending on the current
> >   version numbers.  But for the short term, we should just commit an
> >   updated version of the page with hardcoded links and version numbers.
> 
> Where did the mirror.xhtml go? What was wrong with it? Or what has
> happened to it?

It should be generated from the files in programmatic/downloads/, but
for some reason this step is not done at the right time by the
Makefile.  This should be reasonably easy to fix, so I will have a
look at it later today.  I added a quick hack to avoid errors
yesterday because I did not have much time, but now I will fix it in
the right way.

> > - Improve the platform-specific sections: /unix/, /windows/,
> >   /macintosh/ and /os2/.  I have re-structured these pages a bit and I
> >   will commit the changes on Saturday, but I would be happy if anybody
> >   could improve them afterwards.  Relevant bugs include bug #119537,
> >   bug #119539, bug #119246 and bug #119538.
> 
> You have restructured pages that has a maintainer? Are the maintainers
> of the file informed about this? And have they seen the changes that you
> have done and aproved them for the site? (Just because you are
> coordinator does not mean you can make changes to sites like that when
> there are maintainers that needs to be informed about it.)

IIRC, the consensus after GimpCon was that all platform-specific pages
should have the same structure.  This is also what Daniel reported in
some of the bugs listed above.  On the 1st of this month, I posted a
message (id: <20030901174734.31a3be23.quinet@gamers.org>) in which I
explained how these pages should be re-organized.  There were no
comments about this and this would fix several bug reports, so I think
that it would be appropriate to go ahead and fix these problems.

[...]
> E-mail addresses ok. Updating all the tutorials..no. This would take
> long time and we could do this later after the move. Trust me there is
> more then just the footer that will change later.

Yes.  I have several ideas about things that could be changed (i.e.,
how the menu could be generated and included in the pages) and that
will probably affect a large number of files.  But let's keep that for
later; there are more important things to fix now.  Regarding the
footers of the tutorials, the problem is that the e-mail addresses are
included as text in each page and could be easily harvested by a
robot.  I will see if I can write a small script that can do the
updates for me, so that I do not have to update every file by hand.

-Raphaël