[Gimp-web] the GIMP website

Carol Spears carol at gimp.org
Wed Sep 24 04:27:01 2003


There are some very wrong ways that this organization works.

If I have a problem with the content being removed, I should be able to 
say no, and everyone who helped me to put the content together in the 
first place is represented with my simple no.

I am being accused of being not nice, however I sent the email in which 
I nicely begged (through some tears, btw) that the site be left as the 
team made it.  This was private mail that apparently went unread, as it 
was unanswered and ignored.

I did everything nicely, and got no where.

Rapha?l completely redoes the whole build system, removing the ssi (even 
though me and yosh and Helvetix worked out what would be the best for 
wilber while we were making the site last christmas, almost a year ago). 
 I guess this is fine to do, since the email is so polite, even if the 
contribution is so rude.

Not liking the content outline that I have had since before I had a 
gimp.org site of my own -- it is too late to contribute to this.  I was 
given the job originally with Tommer because I could represent the users 
needs.

When I quit, I quit because logic and discussion get you no where. 
 Because I cannot express myself in a productive way.

Rapha?l, you could not get ssi to work on your site so you rewrote what 
Helvetix and yosh wrote?  Would you have been so quick to do this had 
you known the people who helped to make it as it was when it was ready 
to move?

I had a technician who disagreed with everything that I said, until yosh 
got up and said I was right.  I gave scizzo full backing with all the 
style and such, but to remove content.  Three to five years of agreeing 
with everything he did might have given him the wrong impression that I 
will agree with everything he says always.  I only agree when he is 
right.  Removing the link to this content was wrong.

Also, I never thought I would be good enough to do anything but the 
content.  The rest was thrown on me because Tommer never actually quit, 
but never actually started.  I was left alone to do something I never 
thought that I could.  I got together a good group of people.  Me being 
female was something that my capable technician could not get over.  I 
am sorry about this.  Many times I am sorry that I am female, as this 
seems to be a license for people to walk all over me and let me take the 
blame for their messes.  This is fine, however, don't think that any of 
you fooled me.

The fact that the site does not work in Netscape is a sorry thing to me. 
 Unfortunately, I was given a web designer I thought I could trust.  One 
of the times I quit was because there was something so wrong about my 
two techincians ( I had to get another one, since the day the other 
could begin to contribute again never came -- every month i would get a 
new date he would be available for -- lovely!) redesigning the site with 
that stupid tableless design.

I said nicely on the irc that the Resources and the Contest stay.  I had 
contributors to the Contest on three different incarnations of the site. 
 What could possibly be broken?  Some of the new people think that the 
contest is not clearly defined enough.  I think it is a great window 
into contributing to gimp.

But if you want to make me into a raging maniac: remove good content for 
no reason, totally rework the site and ignore the months that me and 
Helvetix and yosh put into making the build system and continue to type 
nice.  I will be a raging maniac since being nice three years ago when I 
developed the content (with people who know how to use a gimp Changelog, 
btw) and all my heros from pre-gimp-1.0 days liked it so much.  I will 
become a maniac if anyone questions them.

What I have learned trying to contribute to freesoftware is that as long 
as you type politely on email, you can idiotically destroy months of 
work made by people who know what they are doing.

I was very nice when I announced the site moving to gnomecvs, last march 
i think?  Where was everyone then?  The site was ready to move in May. 
 By September I am an incoherent bitch.  You betchya.

Niklas, if you believed me when I typed that you were fired playfully on 
the irc this morning, why did you not believe when I said, "leave the 
resources alone".

About me quitting, sorry.  Like I said, I quit idiot conversations.  At 
the time I was quiting often, I was also dealing with some domestic 
violence and some really stupid work issues.  Hard to have such stupid 
problems with a web site.

But the community needs to think about how a man who types nice email is 
allowed to totally undo very thought out mechanisms by two masters. 
 While the girl who wants to make a web site gets turned into a 
blithering idiot because no one agrees until the "big guy" gets up and 
says I am right. Did the quality of what I was saying change because 
someone less feminine agreed with me? Ask yourself.  Also, ask yourself 
why I was not effective when I was nice.

Lets ask all the gimp people I spoke with when coming up with the 
content originally why they would encourage me and contribute to 
something you guys seem not to like now.

This site was ready to move in May.  It was on gnomecvs (waiting 
fruitlessly for contributions) since March.  One of the lead developers 
told me it was a mistake to move it to gnomecvs, and I will not make 
this mistake the next time.

The next time? Yep.  No matter how often I quit, I am starting to work 
on the next site now.  This site will not move to wgo.  It is an 
embarassment this late in the game.  Just in case I am not clear on what 
embarassment is, feel free to check the definition :

*embarrass*

v 1: cause to be embarrassed; cause to feel self-conscious [syn: abash 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=abash>] 2: hinder or prevent 
the progress or accomplishment of; "His brother blocked him at every 
turn" [syn: obstruct 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obstruct>, blockade 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=blockade>, block 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=block>, hinder 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hinder>, stymie 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stymie>, stymy 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stymy>]


Source 
<http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=00-database-info&db=wn>: 
WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University


mmmaybe will never move.  it will never be wgo.  play with it all you 
want, it is not worth the three hours it will take to move it.  It will 
never have a legitimate bug report either, as there is not a way to file 
a bug for this site.  

any questions?  file your complaints at bugzilla under www.gimp.org.

thanks for all your help when i asked nicely last march.

carol